Tuesday, November 12, 2013

PE: Menu Marker Limitation/Implementation Update

INTRODUCTION

First, the good news. Premiere Elements 12 now allows for the use of 99 Timeline menu markers in its project in contrast to Premiere Elements 11, 10, and 9.0/9.0.1 which each have a 25 Timeline menu marker limit. This is confirmed at the Timeline level as well as in the play back of disc to which the menu has been applied.


Back in the April 2013 blog post "PE11: Menu Marker Limit Implementation Problem", it was found that Premiere Elements 11 has the same 25 menu marker limit that versions 10 and 9 have, but, unlike 10 and 9, does not give a pop up with regard to that limitation when the user tries to create the 26th menu marker. And, in that study, that pop up did not appear even when the 75th menu marker was placed in Premiere Elements 11. Under those circumstances, no attempt was made to place more than 75.

In preparing an update blog post on the Premiere Elements Menu Marker limitation and implementation using 110 stills as part of the test protocol, it was discovered that the 25 limit pop up does appear in Premiere Elements 11 but when the user attempts to place the 100th menu marker.

ISSUE

Need for verification and clarification is indicated for version to version
  • menu marker limit
  • pop up menu marker limit warning dialog, the timing of its appearance and the accuracy of its message
SOLUTION
An exploration mission of the ISSUE was carried out with Premiere Elements 4, 7, 8.0/8.0.1, 9.0/9.0.1, 10, 11, and 12 on Windows 7 Professional SP1 64 bit. In each case 110 stills were placed on the Timeline and scene markers placed at the beginning of each as far as could be done.

RESULTS

Premiere Elements 12
99 Timeline menu markers usable
Menu Marker Limit Pop Up appeared at attempt to place the 100th marker...could go no further.
However, the warning message was in error, citing a 25, not 99, menu marker limit.

Figure 1. Premiere Elements 12. Menu Marker Pop Up At Attempt To Place 100TH Menu Marker.

The 99 menu marker limit* was confirmed at the Timeline level and at play back of disc to which the menu was applied. It was suspected that someone had forgotten to up date this pop up going from version 11 to 12.

Premiere Elements 11
25 Timeline menu markers usable
Menu Marker Limit Pop Up appeared only at attempt to place the 100th marker...could go no further.
The Menu Marker Limit Pop Up message appeared as represented in Figure 1 for Premiere Elements 12. Earlier studies missed this Premiere Elements 11 Pop Up because attempted placements of menu markers did not exceed 75. Stopping at 75 at that time seemed justified since placement of menu marker 26 through 75 resulted in 25 Timeline menu markers actually useable.

Premiere Elements 10
25 Timeline menu markers usable
Menu Marker Limit Pop Up appeared at attempted placement of the 26th menu marker...could go no further.

Figure 2. Premiere Elements 10. Menu Marker Pop Up At Attempt To Place 26TH Menu Marker.

Premiere Elements 9.0/9.0.1
25 Timeline menu markers usable
Menu Marker Limit Pop Up appeared at attempted placement of the 26th menu marker...could go no further.

The Menu Marker Pop Up message appeared as represented in Figure 2 for Premiere Elements 10.

Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1
98 Timeline menu markers usable
No Menu Marker Limit Pop Up, 110 menu markers actually placed

Premiere Elements 7
98 Timeline menu markers usable
No Menu Marker Limit Pop Up, 110 menu markers actually placed

Premiere Elements 4
98 Timeline menu markers usable
No Menu Marker Limit Pop Up, 110 menu markers actually placed




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* DVD Template was used with 6 scenes per Scene Selection page.
  • Premiere Elements 12. 16 Scene Selection pages with 6 scenes each page + 1 Scene Selection page with 3 scenes. 99 scenes total.
  • Premiere Elements 11. 4 Scene Selection pages with 6 scenes each page + 1 Scene Selection page with 1 scene. 25 scenes total.
  • Premiere Elements 10. Same as 11.
  • Premiere Elements 9.0/9.0.1. Same as 11.
  • Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1, 7, and 4. 16 Scene Selection pages with 6 scenes each page + 1 Scene Selection page with 2 scenes. 98 scenes total.